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Can I associate the same partition to multiple activation points?

Yes, you can bind the same partition to multiple activation devices so that you can control it from several points associated to zones in the system.

How many Partitions can be created on a By-me alarm system?

You can create up to 9 partitions.

What is a Partition?

A Partition is a grouping of one or more SAI zones which activated/deactivate together as a result of a control sent by an activation device (control unit, activator, keypad, remote control). During configuration, you can assign different partitions to different activation devices.

When I arm the SAI from the activation point I notice that the partitions associated with it are switched off and I have to pass the key again to activate it.

It is a normal situation which depends on the message handling of arming/disarming inherent in the control unit: it is therefore important to include the SAI zones of the activators in the relative partition carefully, especially when such a partition is associated with multiple devices, activators or control unit/keypad codes. Whether an activation device (including an RF interface or a transponder reader for Access Control) sends an activation or deactivation message to its associated partition depends on the state of its RF-zone when the client acts: if this area was already active because its partition had previously been armed by another activator, the control unit reads the area of the activator as ARMED and so sends a DISARM instruction to the relative partition. This is true even if the user actually wanted to arm them because he or she was not aware that the zone (and therefore the relative partitioning) where the activator was configured was already armed. This is why when you pass the transponder key a second time, the control unit now arms the partition which it previously considered disarmed.

When I try to activate the partitions associated with my activator or my special key or my RF interface, I can't get the partition to work.

Make sure that the zone relative to the activator or special key or RF interface is inserted in one of the associated partitions (if there is only one, then it must of course contain the zone with the input device). Example 1: If activator A is inserted in zone 7 and you want it to activate the "kitchen" partition, then zone 7 must be included in "kitchen" partition. Example 2: If the activator is inserted in zone 7 and you want it activate the "kitchen", "living room" and "bathroom", then zone 7 must be in one of the above partitions. ATTENTION: THIS RESTRICTION IS NOT APPLICABLE FOR THE ACTIVATION OF PARTITIONS THROUGH THE KEYPAD CODES (IT IS SUFFICIENT FOR THE DEVICE TO PERTAIN TO ANY PARTITION) AND FOR ACTIVATION VIA THE CONTROL UNIT BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THE CONTROL UNIT DOES NOT PERTAIN TO ANY ZONE AND CONSEQUENTLY ANY PARTITION.

I updated the software of the control unit to version 2.00, but I can't create new users in the SETTINGS - USER MANAGEMENT menu.

The update of the control unit software to version 2.00 must be strictly carried out using the EasyTool software version 3.1 or later, which contains all the updates required for the management of the new menu. in this case, just import the control unit database with EasyTool 3.1 or later, export it to a file by selecting VERSION "DATABASE db1" and then reset this file as the control unit database and upload it to the control unit (where it will automatically be converted to "db2"; this double procedure allows a PC to update all the pages of the menu by importing them from the database file, and then exporting them in the correct format to the control unit.

I have updated the By-me control unit software from version 1.1x to 2.00 and now I can't activate the burglar alarm.

Version 2.00 (and later) fundamentally changes the burglar alarm system logic by adding the concept of partitions. The moment you upgrade, the control unit does not allow activation of the SAI because some new information is required: partitions present (SAI zone sets) and partition association with various arming devices. When these parameters have been entered, the burglar alarm system will resume correct operation.

The control unit does not allow me to activate the burglar alarm and pops-up an alert with "the partition is not complete"

1) Check that there are no empty groups (zones) in the settings, or that they contain no devices.

2) If there are areas in which they are registered ONLY remote controls for RF interface they should be deleted (the remotes do not go then reconfigured, since in reality the control unit saves them in a masked area that is not included in the 31 visible to the installer )

3) Check that all parts have been associated with a choking, without exception (even those with only readers or keypads, as well as those that contain RF devices)

How many partitions can one zone be allocated to?

One zone can be placed in one single partition. It is therefore necessary to identify which zones need to be present in multiple partitions and manage them independently.

How many partitions can I create?

The maximum number of partitions is 9.

Can you briefly summarize the configuration process burglar alarm system?

First, you have to create the various SAI zones from the settings menu of the control unit, and allocate different devices. Enter the SAI page from the main menu, select the SETUP menu and proceed to create new partitions: each is given its own name and is associated with one or more SAI zones. Then from the Partitions menu, associate the newly created partitions to different activation points (readers, users, keypad code, etc.). NOTE: there shouldn't be any zones without devices in the SAI system, and all areas should be included in a partition (an area may be associated to a single partition).

In order to bind partitions to activation points, is it enough for me to manage the keys, as in the old system?

No, the logic has now changed. After creating the zones, you must create "partitions" which are nothing more than "zone groups"; each partition includes areas that, at a particular activation point for a specific user, should activate or deactivate collectively (e.g., the cleaning lady could activate and deactivate only the areas included in her area). Once the different partitions have been created, they need to be associated with various activation points or keypad codes. . It is also possible to associate more than one partition to an activation point, user-control unit, etc. (for example, you could create a "Perimeter" partition, an "Infrared ground floor" and a "Infrared first floor", each containing multiple SAI zones).

Can the infrared barriers (part no. 01832) be connected to and powered through the 12 Volt interface (20491 and the like)?

No, you need to install a dedicated power adapter 01830 as they draw more than the 10 mA that the interface can supply (which the PIR from other bands for example can power within their operable limits).

Can I update a 2-Module SAI control unit (part no.20480/14480 and the like) to make it compatible with the new products?

No it isn't possible, you must purchase a new control unit

Can the latest SAI devices be installed on a By-me system with a control unit software version earlier than 2.00, or on a 2-Module SAI control unit prior to version 4.00?

Only the contacts interface with two independent inputs (20490 and similar) and the outdoor siren 01806 are compatible with these versions.

Can the 01806 siren be configured during system maintenance in place of the 01805 outdoor siren?

Yes, and the control unit will pass on the default parameters of the 01805 sirens, but the new 01806 sirens do not have the anit-tamper foam present in the 01805.

Can an input to the new contacts interface with two independent inputs (20490, 14490, 16940) also function as a Scenario Activation button for home automation?

Yes, both the inputs are configurable in the home automation section either in one or in more groups (maximum 4 groups) that can be alternatively set as activation buttons for a scenario (maximum one scenario).

Do the magnetic/technical/shutter contacts connected to the two inputs of the contacts interface with two independent inputs (20490, 14490, 16940) need to be powered, or are they dry contacts?

They are dry contacts and do not need to be powered.

How many meters of cable can be connected to each input of the contacts interface with two independent inputs (20490, 14490, 16940)?

You can connect a maximum of 30 meters of cable to the magnetic contact plus 30 meters return cable: the total for the connection sections for each input must not exceed 30+30=60 metres of wire. It is good practice to pass the wires along separate channels to avoid possible induction interference from powered cables.

Do the new contacts interfaces with two separate inputs (20490,14490,16940) allow configuration of the two inputs to two different SAI zones?

No, the two inputs must be configured to the same area. You can for example connect a sensor to input-1 for technical alarms (setting the appropriate parameter as per instructions) and a magnetic contact to input 2, but both will be associated to the same SAI zone. You can instead choose to configure the two inputs to areas in the home automation menu that are totally different (each is configurable to a maximum of 4 home automation zones + 1 SAI zone): A common example is connecting a roller shutter to input 1, and a magnetic contact on the same window to input 2 in order to protect the shutters and window when the SAI is armed, but also automatically arrest room heating if the window is opened when the SAI is disabled (therefore setting input-2 in the relative climate zone).

During an alarm, the outdoor siren 01806 blinks but does not emit any sound, why?

Check the battery charge.

Can I make an 01941 or 01942 GSM communicator function in the SAI?

Yes, simply connect the 01848 GSM interface of the 01941 Communicator, or the terminal "BUS + -" of the 01942 to the BUS, and they will automatically detect SAI alarm or TECHNICAL messages that circulate on the BUS.

How can I find out which zone a device that I have just identified was in?

In the "Settings" menu, go to Configuration/Device Management and just scroll down the list of devices (sorted by area) until you find the device with the same address. Then you can exit the menu without necessarily editing its settings.

How do I reset a device?

You need to enter "Add devices in zone 1" for 3 seconds and then press ESC, at which point you have approximately 40 seconds to reset the devices (by pressing and releasing the configuration button after 1 second, then press it again and don't release it the red configuration LED turns off. For devices 16935, 14485 and 20485, you do not need to release the button). When the 40 seconds has expired you need to repeat the whole procedure to continue resetting other devices. The only non-resettable device is the 01805 outdoor siren. Following a reset, the devices no longer work in the SAI system and change their internal address (it is therefore necessary to remove them from the area where they were configured as they will still be stored in the device list on the control unit with their old address).

Can I use the SAI system infrared (PIR) to control lights if the SAI is off?

Yes, depending on the situation: If the SAI is interfaced to a Convimar control unit (20510-16950-14510), it must first be configured in the SAI control unit and then in the configuration menu of the Convimar control unit. If the SAI is interfaced to a By-me (21550-20550-14550), it must first be configured in the SAI and then in a maximum of 4 other groups in the home automation section of the By-me control unit.

Is it possible to change relay states to manage a generic dialler or activate other devices?

Yes, from the control unit menu Alarm/Setup/Messages Management, it is possible to send a command to zones with relay actuators installed for mechanical switching. The types of messages that can be managed from this menu include: Arming/Disarming of the SAI, triggering of Intrusion Alarms, Tamper Alarms, Low Battery and Mains power outage.

Is it possible to have Panic Alarms?

Yes, via the Contacts Interfaces and RF Interfaces; in areas 1-30, you can change the state of an actuator relay in the SAI system configured in the same zone without sounding the sirens, configuring them in zone 31 on the other hand, you can make the sirens sound (see the SAI instructions).

Is it possible to change the device settings to alter sensitivity or operation?

Yes, it is easily done through the relevant control unit menu item, once the device has been configured.

How many SAI zones can be set in a control unit?

The unit accepts up to 60 devices which can be programmed into 30 separate zones that can be activated as needed by creating different partitions (maximum 9). In each area, you can configure multiple devices with different functions. Zone 31 is reserved for configuration and backup sirens.

What are "MASTER-Keys" and "SLAVE-Keys", and what are the Special-Keys "AI Master" and "AI-Slave"?

Master-Keys are configured on a single activator and the control unit then allows it to work on all the Activator units/Transponder Readers in the system, while the Slave-Keys only work with the Activators/Transponder Readers they are associated with (which can be more than 1 Activator/Reader). Each activator/reader can store up to 4 Special Keys, while the whole SAI system can be configured with a maximum of 24 Master Keys. The Special-Keys "AI Master" and "AI Slave" are the equivalent of SAI Keys and Slave Keys, with the difference being that they have been configured in Transponder Readers for Access Control (part no. 14470/16470/20470).

Is it possible to arm the SAI alarm with the Transponder Reader of the Access Control System (part no. 14470/16470/20470)?

Yes, but first the transponder keys need to be associated to the reader by following the Access Control instructions provided with the packaging, then configure the Reader in the SAI control unit, and finally the keys need to be reconfigured again in the control unit menu (which shows among the types of keys that can be configured, those that are for the Access Control readers). Please note that you initially have to pass one transponder key over the reader 4 times to start the configuration process described in the Control Access instructions, and this same key CANNOT be configured in the SAI. Even for this type of reader the SAI can have Master-Keys (or SAI-Keys) and a maximum of 4 Slave-Keys (or Special-Keys). Under normal operation, if you are using the Slave-Key to arm the alarm system from this type of reader, you must first hold the configuration key for 1 s and then pass the transponder key; whereas disarming only requires passing Slave-Key. For Master-Keys (or normal keys) it is not necessary to press this button to arm the SAI system.

Is it possible to arm the SAI system from the control unit?

Yes, usually after entering a User or Installer password.

Can I activate a scenario in the Convimar control unit following an alarm in the SAI control unit?

Yes, see the FAQ for communication between the SAI control unit and the Convimar control unit.

Can a 2-module SAI control unit communicate with other By-me control units (20550+01960)?

No, they can't communicate.

Can a SAI control unit communicate with other Convimar control units?

Yes, but with only 1 control unit. The two BUS lines are separated by an 01845 Line Coupler, and you can activate the Convimar control unit groups or scenarios following arming/disarming/sounding of the SAI alarm system. You can also arm/disarm the SAI from the Convimar control unit.

How many burglar alarm BUS lines can a control unit manage?

It can manage only 1 burglar alarm line.

How many devices can a control unit operate?

A control unit supports up to 60 burglar alarm devices, all connected on the same BUS line as the control unit. A control unit supports up to home automation 194 devices connected to at least two distinct home automation BUS lines (maximum 128 devices per line).

How does the alarm system behave when a single device fails?

The system goes into a "Tamper alarm" state. The control unit shows the message: "Tamper Warning. Device does not respond or is missing" indicating the type of product that has failed and the area in which it is configured.

Can the By-me SAI burglar alarm system be configured with a PC?

Yes, it is possible to configure the By-me Burglar Alarm and Automation system with the Easytool Professional Software. But for the operation, the presence of the control panel is necessary.

What cable should be used for the SAI burglar alarm?

For the connections use sheathed and twisted pair cable Vimar code 01840 (2x0.5 mm², rated insulation voltage 300/500 V, WITHOUT BRAIDING). If a suitable cable which has the same electrical characteristics is not used, it is very likely to have serious and various malfunctions both in configuration and in the system operation.

Is the BUS polarized?

Yes, you must respect the polarity when wiring

During an alarm, the outdoor siren 01805/01806 blinks but does not emit any sound, why?

Check the battery charge.

Can I control a non-Vimar dialler with SAI?

Yes, just connect the output of a SAI relay actuator configured in the system, you can control a dialler which has a dry contact input, and then select the Setup > Message Setup menu item (in the SAI page) to select the SAI event that will activate the relay.

Is it possible to identify a configured device to verify the address or area where it is allocated?

Yes, there is a Device Identification menu that shows the SAI zone where it has been allocated.

What are "SAI Keys", and what are the "Special Keys", the "CA Access Control Keys" and "CA Special Access Control Keys"?

The SAI Keys are configured on a single activator and then the control unit permits them to work on all the Activators/Transponder Readers in the system. The Special Keys only work on the Activators/Transponder Readers to which they are associated (even on multiple activators/readers). Each activator/reader can store up to 4 Special Keys, while the whole SAI system can be configured with a maximum of 24 SAI Keys. The"SAI Access Control Keys" and "CA Special Access Control Keys" are the equivalent of SAI Keys and Special Keys, with the difference being that they have been configured for Transponder Key Readers (part no. 14470/16470/20470).

Is it possible to partition the SAI?

Ye partitioning can be differentiated according to whether the SAI burglar alarm is activated from one transponder key rather than from another on the same reader, or differentiated according to different activation points around the house (associating different armed zones to various Transponder readers, with the various RF Interfaces with remote controls, or the main control unit). It is similarly possible, following the appropriate procedure, to partially deactivate the SAI.

Is it possible to enter a password? Is it possible to arm the SAI system from the control unit?

As described in the By-me FAQ, a maximum of 20 passwords can be enabled for management of the SAI burglar alarm, and for each you can set different activation partitions.

How does the system behave in case of a control unit failure?

The system is put in the Alarm Watchdog condition. The rest of the system continues to operate normally (groups and scenarios invoked by key). Through the "Diagnostics" menu, you can replace the defective control units and the individual devices will transfer their configuration to the new control unit.

Can the SAI be configured with a PC?

Yes, to configure the By-me system through a PC, you need to purchase the 01993 interface and download the EasyToolProfessional software

Is the backup unit necessary? How many should I use?

Yes, you need at least one backup unit in the alarm system, up to a maximum of 2 units per system + 2 auxiliary battery packs (one per backup unit). The number of backup units is defined according to the total consumption of the installed devices and the cable distances between the devices and the same backup units. Remember that between two backup units, you need at least 40 meters of BUS cable (with connected devices) and each unit must be combined with an 01801 power supply.

How does the By-me SAI burglar alarm system work?

The devices are all connected in parallel to a dedicated 29V powered BUS line which is filtered by a backup unit that doubles as an indoor siren. In the control unit, you can associate the devices and group them into 31 different zones (even with multiple devices per zone). One such area could for example be associated with a room and when you arm the system, you can decide zone-by-zone whether the devices must trigger an alarm or not. Such partitioning can be differentiated according to which transponder key is activating the SAI burglar alarm, or according to different activation points around the house (associating different activation zones to different Transponder readers, RF Interfaces for remote controls, or the main control unit). It is possible to change specific relay states according to various alarm classes: Tamper, Technical, Panic, etc.

How many contacts for shutters can be managed by a single contacts interface?

A maximum of two, and the maximum length of the cable must not be more than 10 m.

Is it possible to have acoustic confirmation when the system is armed or disarmed?

Yes, you can do it for the backup unit via the control unit settings and also on the 16470 Idea and 14470 Plana transponder readers, which house an internal buzzer (this function can be enabled directly from control units with software versions 3.00 and above).

Are there any alternatives to the transponder for arming the alarm system via BUS?

Yes, the radio remote control 01819 can be used with the radio interface or the smart card reader 16471, 14471. This type of function is active with the control panel software version 3.00 and higher.

Is it possible to install RF-controlled and BUS components in the same burglar alarm system?

Yes, integrating the 16943, 14493 radio frequency interfaces in the alarm system allows the BUS system to communicate with some RF system components. This type of function is available on control unit software versions 3.00 and above.

The presence of small pets such as dogs or cats can be detected by the infrared detectors art. 16935 Idea 14485 Plana?

Yes, because the sensor is not selective and detects any passage of hot bodies; this implies that when the system is switched on no pets should be left inside the home.

If I need to add a component, you need to reprogram the entire system?

No just use "Add" function in the control unit and proceed with identification by pressing the button on the front of the device.

If I need to delete a component, is it necessary to reprogram the entire system?

No, just remove the device from the control unit using the "Remove" function for the component to be deleted and then physically disconnect it from the system.

To set the delay, is it necessary to delay the whole area, or can you delay the single component?

By setting the parameters in the control unit, you can delay a single device (e.g., IR detector or contacts interface for perimeter control).

How many zones can you subdivide the burglar alarm BUS system into?

The burglar alarm system can be divided into 30 separate zones and freely partitioned.

What should the characteristics of the cable for the Vimar alarm BUS system be?

Sheathed twisted pair cable, minimum 0.6 mm diameter in accordance with European CEI 46-5 norms. Vimar catalogue item 01840 is a cable that has the required characteristics stated above and can, given a nominal operating voltage of 300/500 V, be run alongside electricity lines. It comes in rolls of 100 m.

Can I use the relay actuators of the SAI burglar alarm system connected to the By-me system?

You can't connect these actuators on a home automation BUS, but only those belonging to the By-me system

Can you activate the SAI burglar alarm through the By-me control unit?

Yes, from the By-me control unit you can arm and disarm the SAI burglar alarm as it is directly managed by the control unit,as is the home automation system.

Can I interface home automation with the SAI burglar alarm in the By-me control unit?

Yes, the control unit can configure and manage both systems. The control unit will require two BUS lines: the burglar alarm line (known as Area 0 Line 0) where the control unit and the devices of the SAI burglar alarm are installed, and the home automation line (Area 1 Line 0). Communication between the two branches occurs through the 01845 line coupler respecting the terminal connections: BUS1 – burglar alarm line and BUS 2 – home automation line.

I have multiple registered users on the control unit with management of the SAI burglar alarm enabled , but I am still able to activate/deactivate the alarm without a password request from the control

If you want to differentiate activation of the SAI burglar alarm depending on users, you have to remove "Guest" access rights to the SAI burglar alarm in the Settings menu.

Is it possible to activate the SAI burglar alarm from the By-me control unit in different ways, depending on the user password-entered in the menu?

Yes, for all 20 selectable users, the SAI burglar alarm can be partitioned differently according to the password entered on the control unit. If, however, the "Guest" user is enabled to use the SAI burglar alarm, the SAI menu will not trigger a password prompt (since the generic user who accesses the control unit after the automatic logout can open the menu without a password), and so this function will not be possible. It is therefore necessary in this case to exclude access to the SAI burglar alarm for the "Guest" user.

Is it possible to enter a password on the alarm control unit?

Yes, you can enter up to 19 passwords for a total of 20 different users: one of these is in fact named "Guest", which usually comes without the permission settings for the settings and configuration menus, and is automatically activated after a period of inactivity (approx. 2min) of the By-me control unit. The first user that is generated on installation of the system is the Administrator, which has full management of all users on the control unit, thus able to create them, decide access permissions, passwords, etc.

If I have multiple By-me control units interfaced with each other on different BUSes, how many can manage the burglar alarm branch?

Only one By-me control unit, the one initialized with Area 00 and Line 00, while the others that must have different Area and Line addresses cannot therefore configure SAI burglar alarm devices (the SAI burglar alarm line is strictly with the address Area 00 Line 00, and on one BUS line there can be only one control unit)

I configured the By-me control board some time ago without a burglar alarm line and now I have to add one. Is it possible?

If the control unit is initialized with an Area and Line address that is not Area00/Line00, you have to reset the control unit and all devices already configured.in order to add the SAI burglar alarm line. The system is therefore completely reconfigured by initializing the By-me control unit with Area 00 and Line 00, the same is then connected on the intrusion system line and will require the addition of an 01845 line coupler to generate the light line Area01/Line00.

What happens in a By-me system in case of power supply failure?

The By-me home automation system turns off. when the control unit is connected to the burglar alarm system BUS, the control unit and devices will remain powered thanks to the presence of the backup unit until the batteries reach the minimum voltage level of that can support operation (after which the backup unit disconnects the batteries to save them from being fully discharged, once the minimum operating voltage of the system has been breached). It is therefore good practice to predispose a second power source which can be connected in an emergency.

How do I connect the line coupler if the control unit is placed on the BUS of the SAI burglar alarm?

The line coupler acts as a message filter on the 2 BUSes connected to it, allowing only those desired to pass. It also electrically separates the 2 BUSes, so each one requires its own 01801 power supply. In the event that the SAI burglar alarm is present, the control unit must be strictly connected to the BUS of the SAI burglar alarm, which is connected to the BUS 1 terminal of the line coupler. The BUS for home automation devices (shutters, relays, etc.) are connected to the BUS 2 terminal.